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Fango

United Kingdom8913 Posts

August 16 2024 08:49 GMT

#281

On August 16 2024 08:24 WombaT wrote:

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There’s barely anyone making excuses for Serral in this thread though?


Well we are already getting "military service" and "he's sick" coming in. How are you sorting excuses out?

Good excuses:
Wrist/shoulder injuries
Military service
"Wasn't in peak form yet"

Bad excuses:
Jet Lag
"Online doesn't count"
Saving builds
Sickness
"Zerg imba"

kajtarp

Hungary450 Posts

August 16 2024 09:31 GMT

#282

There was a thread few months ago about the double elimination format where i expressed my opinion heavily, why i dislike double elim. My opinion haven't changed. While for certain, double elim format results in more matches, which many of us certainly enjoys, it eliminates the suprise, the upset from tournaments. In a non double elim tournament Maru and Serral would be knocked out by now by Clem and Dark. They absolutely played well, they played their hearts out, they came up with good strategies and executions. They deserved their win. But with this format Serral and Maru can just look back the replays, and adjust their gameplay while they still have 2 lives left. I honestly does not see any of them not reaching the final four. Where they will have pretty good chances to play the finals despite their losses from yesterday and based on their replays they can just brainstorm and plug their holes. In a non double elim format they could still do it,yes. In the next tournament ...

Asha

United Kingdom38121 Posts

August 16 2024 10:34 GMT

#283

Reynor looking very sharp today.

Maybe I shouldn't say today given the challenge he gave Clem too.

Big comeback needed from Solar

darklycid

3301 Posts

August 16 2024 10:48 GMT

#284

Hmm solar played well but just seemed to not be up to par on mechanics, way too often he was just getting caught and move commanded stuff it felt like.

HeroSandro

494 Posts

August 16 2024 10:48 GMT

#285

Will we get another classic Serral vs Reynor ZvZ banger?
Edit: Clem and Reynor trying to snipe Serral. Not cool 😄

Acrofales

Spain17527 Posts

August 16 2024 10:53 GMT

#286

On August 16 2024 19:48 HeroSandro wrote:
Will we get another classic Serral vs Reynor ZvZ banger?


Well, neither Cure nor herO are walkovers for Reynor, but it'd be a treat. If Reynor loses to Cure/herO, though, I think Serral strolls easily into the 2nd vs 2nd match.

HeroSandro

494 Posts

August 16 2024 10:54 GMT

#287

On August 16 2024 19:53 Acrofales wrote:

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Well, neither Cure nor herO are walkovers for Reynor, but it'd be a treat. If Reynor loses to Cure/herO, though, I think Serral strolls easily into the 2nd vs 2nd match.


I’m hoping for Reynor vs herO and Byun vs Maru.

tigera6

3146 Posts

August 16 2024 10:57 GMT

#288

Solar made his run in ZvZ last year thanks to smart build choice and cutting corner, but people has figured him out and his control isnt as great as the other top players.

Acrofales

Spain17527 Posts

August 16 2024 11:00 GMT

#289

Who is Team Falcon? Sure, the rest of the top 10 looks competitive, but seems they have 1st place entirely sewn up. Good to see TL going strong as the best of the rest!

PremoBeats

152 Posts

August 16 2024 11:06 GMT

#290

On August 16 2024 20:00 Acrofales wrote:
Who is Team Falcon? Sure, the rest of the top 10 looks competitive, but seems they have 1st place entirely sewn up. Good to see TL going strong as the best of the rest!

It is a Saudi Esports Organization having teams in multiple games (Apex Legends, Counter-Strike 2, Dota 2, FIFA / EA Sports FC, Overwatch, PUBG, Rocket League, Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege, and Valorant.). It is possible that they amassed their points simply through quantity, even if they "only" get 3-5th place in many games, they have an inherent advantage over organizations that only focus on one game. I didn't confirm this theory though.

On August 16 2024 17:49 Fango wrote:

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Well we are already getting "military service" and "he's sick" coming in. How are you sorting excuses out?

Good excuses:
Wrist/shoulder injuries
Military service
"Wasn't in peak form yet"

Bad excuses:
Jet Lag
"Online doesn't count"
Saving builds
Sickness
"Zerg imba"

If you don't focus on the few (was it 1 or 2?) posters who looked for explanations why the Immortal Demon Lord got his ass kicked 0:3 after having another ridiculous winning streak and having only dropped 3 (?) maps in the last 2 tournaments, your forum experience will skyrocket, I promise!

onPHYRE

Bulgaria884 Posts

August 16 2024 11:19 GMT

#291

On August 16 2024 18:31 kajtarp wrote:
There was a thread few months ago about the double elimination format where i expressed my opinion heavily, why i dislike double elim. My opinion haven't changed. While for certain, double elim format results in more matches, which many of us certainly enjoys, it eliminates the suprise, the upset from tournaments. In a non double elim tournament Maru and Serral would be knocked out by now by Clem and Dark. They absolutely played well, they played their hearts out, they came up with good strategies and executions. They deserved their win. But with this format Serral and Maru can just look back the replays, and adjust their gameplay while they still have 2 lives left. I honestly does not see any of them not reaching the final four. Where they will have pretty good chances to play the finals despite their losses from yesterday and based on their replays they can just brainstorm and plug their holes. In a non double elim format they could still do it,yes. In the next tournament ...

Everyone but Dark and Clem would be eliminated already…

Showtime and SHIN wouldn’t even have played a game.

What a terrible tournament that would be. You can’t even draw any conclusions from current results as players play differently if they know they have three lives (like they do here). They are more likely to save builds and take greater risks. The matches very likely play out differently.

While the group stage is in a bracket format, it is still the group stage. The matches so far are equivalent to the group stage of the World Cup or the regular season of the NFL. Everyone battles for placement and once you get to the knockout bracket (the next stage), it is one and done. Quick example - Argentina lost to Saudi Arabia in 2022 and went on to win the World Cup. Essentially this group stage looks different, but it’s meant to accomplish the same thing. Seed players for the knockouts.

outscar

2822 Posts

August 16 2024 11:34 GMT

#292

Am I not understanding or where's Ragnarok aka Shin in main event, didn't see him on bracket despite liquipedia telling he's qualified? Also no Showtime although they both say qualified to main from qualifiers.

onPHYRE

Bulgaria884 Posts

August 16 2024 11:37 GMT

#293

On August 16 2024 20:34 outscar wrote:
Am I not understanding or where's Ragnarok aka Shin in main event, didn't see him on bracket despite liquipedia telling he's qualified?

He and Showtime start in the knockout bracket, so you won’t see them until tomorrow.

outscar

2822 Posts

August 16 2024 11:38 GMT

#294

On August 16 2024 20:37 onPHYRE wrote:

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He and Showtime start in the knockout bracket, so you won’t see them until tomorrow.

Oh, that's very interesting approach to bracket, don't remember this kind of format before. Thanks for clearing out.

Pandain

United States12973 Posts

August 16 2024 11:51 GMT

#295

God herO is just the best player to watch of all time.

EquilasH

Denmark2130 Posts

August 16 2024 11:55 GMT

#296

I actually like this format a lot, it gives everyone (except maybe Shin and Showtime) a few fair shots to qualify to top 4, and at the same time we're (almost) guaranteed a top 4 who have all beaten top players in their path.

stilt

France2684 Posts

August 16 2024 11:56 GMT

#297

Reynor seems to be in shape holy cow

Pandain

United States12973 Posts

August 16 2024 11:58 GMT

#298

On August 16 2024 20:55 EquilasH wrote:
I actually like this format a lot, it gives everyone (except maybe Shin and Showtime) a few fair shots to qualify to top 4, and at the same time we're (almost) guaranteed a top 4 who have all beaten top players in their path.

I'm actually a huge fan too.

MJG

United Kingdom705 Posts

August 16 2024 12:01 GMT

#299

herO doing his best Shield of Aiur impression in this fourth game.

EDIT:

And just as I type that, he gets caught out of position lmao...

Pandain

United States12973 Posts

August 16 2024 12:05 GMT

#300

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